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Christianity a fairytale?
Postat av Burre af ostern den 13 September 2010, 15:51
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Hello Fragbite, as I promised I would make a thread about the christianity, people that didn't trust me: Here you go bastards ;)
If you think you are good enough to debate with me then let me know. If not stand your peace!
(Bible) tells us that god must have been drunk.
"Then the Lord awoke as from sleep, as a man wakes from the stupor of wine. (From the NIV Bible, Psalm 78:65)"
HAHAHA shame! If the bible is true for 100% then the Bible describes god as immortal and he cannot be compared to anyone. Im never gonna drink in my life, Am i better than your god now?
The New English Bible says “It is like a mustard seed that when sown in the ground, even though it is the smallest of all the seeds in the ground”
Jesus made a scientific error here: We know the mustard seed is not the smallest one.
In the Bible it is also written for some reason that every man shall die for his own sin. Why would god crucifie his own prophet (son according to you).
At the same time it is written that not a stone shall hurt him in the old testament. Explain his crucifixion? Did god change his mind? Because the bible describes god as someone that does not change his mind?
Every single relic has been prooved FALSE but you cockheads still believe in this. Wake up retard! I wonder if you really were born this way or if you choose your way of life to live with this.
Deut 14:7: " "...as the camel, and the hare, and the coney: for they chew the cud, but divide not the hoof." For the hare this is wrong on both counts: Hares don’t chew the cud and they do divide the "hoof."
This is even more interesting.
New International Version (©1984)
"Men of Israel, listen to this: Jesus of Nazareth was a man accredited by God to you by miracles, wonders and signs, which God did among you through him, as you yourselves know.
New Living Translation (©2007)
"People of Israel, listen! God publicly endorsed Jesus the Nazarene by doing powerful miracles, wonders, and signs through him, as you well know.
English Standard Version (©2001)
“Men of Israel, hear these words: Jesus of Nazareth, a man attested to you by God with mighty works and wonders and signs that God did through him in your midst, as you yourselves know.
Every single translation tells us the same using other words.
But these verses makes me wonder something..
Each member of the Trinity is God. The Father is God (John 6:27; Romans 1:7; 1 Peter 1:2). The Son is God (John 1:1, 14; Romans 9:5; Colossians 2:9; Hebrews 1:8; 1 John 5:20). The Holy Spirit is God (Acts 5:3-4; 1 Corinthians 3:16).
Lets check the "miracle" of the mustard seed out.
He told them another parable: "The kingdom of heaven is like a mustard seed, which a man took and planted in his field. 32Though it is the smallest of all your seeds, yet when it grows, it is the largest of garden plants and becomes a tree, so that the birds of the air come and perch in its branches."
We do know that someone made a scientific error here. For example the orchid seed is smaller. 'Lets not name every single one of them.
Jesus was a Jew. His goals was to renew the Judaism. Please note that jews does NOT eat pork, nor do they allow people to wear a foreskin.
Did Petrus lie to the people to eat pork and not circumcise? There is nothing written about eating pork nor circumcision in the Bible.
What about fasting and celebrating "Sabath"? I can only see people making fun out of muslims fasting.
Millions of christians works at Sabath.
Jesus "adventure to Egypt.... Perhaps it was Nazareth?
“When he arose, he took the young child and his mother by night, and departed into Egypt.”
Yet in Luke 2:39, they went to Nazareth after Jesus’ birth:
“And when they had performed all things according to the law of the Lord, they returned into Galilee, to their own city Nazareth.”
It does not need a rocket scientist to inform us that these verses are contradictory and hence irreconcilable.
In their alleged reply to this irreconcilable error, the missionaries made the claim that:
Joseph and Mary went to Jerusalem to present the new born infant in the temple. From there, they went back to their home in Nazareth. A short time later, the holy family decided to return to Joseph’s ancestral hometown and Jesus’ birthplace, namely Bethlehem in Judea. This is where Matthew picks up. When the Magi found the child Jesus, he was already up to two years old. Being told in a dream about Herod’s desire to kill the child, Joseph left his home and took his family to Egypt until the death of Herod. Fearing that Herod’s son Archelaus would search them out if they returned to Bethlehem, the holy family once again returned to Nazareth and settled there.
We do not accept this explanation, simply because the two narratives in Matthew and Luke are vastly different in a number of details. As Brown himself notes:
…the two narratives are not only different – they are contrary to each other in a number of details. According to Luke 1:26 and 2:39 Mary lives in Nazareth , and so the census of Augustus is invoked to explain how the child was born in Bethlehelm, away from home. In Matthew there is no hint of a coming to Bethlehem, for Joseph and Mary are in a house at Bethlehem were seemingly Jesus was born (2:11). The only journey that Matthew has to explain is why the family went to Nazareth when they came from Egypt instead of returning to their native Bethlehem (2:22-39); this is irreconcilable with Matthew’s implication (2:16) that the child was almost two years old when the family fled from Bethlehem to Egypt and even older when the family came back from Egypt and moved to Nazareth…one must be ruled out, i.e., that both accounts are completely historical.1
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Hello Fragbite, as I promised I would make a thread about the christianity, people that didn't trust me: Here you go bastards ;)
If you think you are good enough to debate with me then let me know. If not stand your peace!
(Bible) tells us that god must have been drunk.
"Then the Lord awoke as from sleep, as a man wakes from the stupor of wine. (From the NIV Bible, Psalm 78:65)"
HAHAHA shame! If the bible is true for 100% then the Bible describes god as immortal and he cannot be compared to anyone. Im never gonna drink in my life, Am i better than your god now?
The New English Bible says “It is like a mustard seed that when sown in the ground, even though it is the smallest of all the seeds in the ground”
Jesus made a scientific error here: We know the mustard seed is not the smallest one.
In the Bible it is also written for some reason that every man shall die for his own sin. Why would god crucifie his own prophet (son according to you).
At the same time it is written that not a stone shall hurt him in the old testament. Explain his crucifixion? Did god change his mind? Because the bible describes god as someone that does not change his mind?
Every single relic has been prooved FALSE but you cockheads still believe in this. Wake up retard! I wonder if you really were born this way or if you choose your way of life to live with this.
Deut 14:7: " "...as the camel, and the hare, and the coney: for they chew the cud, but divide not the hoof." For the hare this is wrong on both counts: Hares don’t chew the cud and they do divide the "hoof."
This is even more interesting.
New International Version (©1984)
"Men of Israel, listen to this: Jesus of Nazareth was a man accredited by God to you by miracles, wonders and signs, which God did among you through him, as you yourselves know.
New Living Translation (©2007)
"People of Israel, listen! God publicly endorsed Jesus the Nazarene by doing powerful miracles, wonders, and signs through him, as you well know.
English Standard Version (©2001)
“Men of Israel, hear these words: Jesus of Nazareth, a man attested to you by God with mighty works and wonders and signs that God did through him in your midst, as you yourselves know.
Every single translation tells us the same using other words.
But these verses makes me wonder something..
Each member of the Trinity is God. The Father is God (John 6:27; Romans 1:7; 1 Peter 1:2). The Son is God (John 1:1, 14; Romans 9:5; Colossians 2:9; Hebrews 1:8; 1 John 5:20). The Holy Spirit is God (Acts 5:3-4; 1 Corinthians 3:16).
Lets check the "miracle" of the mustard seed out.
He told them another parable: "The kingdom of heaven is like a mustard seed, which a man took and planted in his field. 32Though it is the smallest of all your seeds, yet when it grows, it is the largest of garden plants and becomes a tree, so that the birds of the air come and perch in its branches."
We do know that someone made a scientific error here. For example the orchid seed is smaller. 'Lets not name every single one of them.
Jesus was a Jew. His goals was to renew the Judaism. Please note that jews does NOT eat pork, nor do they allow people to wear a foreskin.
Did Petrus lie to the people to eat pork and not circumcise? There is nothing written about eating pork nor circumcision in the Bible.
What about fasting and celebrating "Sabath"? I can only see people making fun out of muslims fasting.
Millions of christians works at Sabath.
Jesus "adventure to Egypt.... Perhaps it was Nazareth?
“When he arose, he took the young child and his mother by night, and departed into Egypt.”
Yet in Luke 2:39, they went to Nazareth after Jesus’ birth:
“And when they had performed all things according to the law of the Lord, they returned into Galilee, to their own city Nazareth.”
It does not need a rocket scientist to inform us that these verses are contradictory and hence irreconcilable.
In their alleged reply to this irreconcilable error, the missionaries made the claim that:
Joseph and Mary went to Jerusalem to present the new born infant in the temple. From there, they went back to their home in Nazareth. A short time later, the holy family decided to return to Joseph’s ancestral hometown and Jesus’ birthplace, namely Bethlehem in Judea. This is where Matthew picks up. When the Magi found the child Jesus, he was already up to two years old. Being told in a dream about Herod’s desire to kill the child, Joseph left his home and took his family to Egypt until the death of Herod. Fearing that Herod’s son Archelaus would search them out if they returned to Bethlehem, the holy family once again returned to Nazareth and settled there.
We do not accept this explanation, simply because the two narratives in Matthew and Luke are vastly different in a number of details. As Brown himself notes:
…the two narratives are not only different – they are contrary to each other in a number of details. According to Luke 1:26 and 2:39 Mary lives in Nazareth , and so the census of Augustus is invoked to explain how the child was born in Bethlehelm, away from home. In Matthew there is no hint of a coming to Bethlehem, for Joseph and Mary are in a house at Bethlehem were seemingly Jesus was born (2:11). The only journey that Matthew has to explain is why the family went to Nazareth when they came from Egypt instead of returning to their native Bethlehem (2:22-39); this is irreconcilable with Matthew’s implication (2:16) that the child was almost two years old when the family fled from Bethlehem to Egypt and even older when the family came back from Egypt and moved to Nazareth…one must be ruled out, i.e., that both accounts are completely historical.1
Questions?
-Sources
-Questions
-Other information?
PM me or comment I promise to do my best to answer all of your questions.
Går bra med svenska..
Till alla er som säger att jag har kopierat från andra ställen och att min engelska suger.
Var god och bemöt mig med era motargument istället..
